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Info-Mac Digest             Wed,  8 Dec 93       Volume 11 : Issue 236

Today's Topics:

      [*] Audiodeck 1.0.4 -- Audio CD player
      [*] ColorKnit 3.0.1
      [*] comp.sys.mac FAQ
      [*] Hyper MapEdit
      [*] KeyWack 1.2
      [*] LaserWriter 8.x Hacks & Patches, version 1.1
      [*] Mousebroken 1.0.1 (control panel)
      [*] Mousebroken 1.0.1 (source code)
      [*] PhotoSizer 1.01 (repost)
      [*] Romi-1.2
      [*] SITcomm AppleScript Dictionary
      [*] Strip-Mac! 2.4 -- Adult party game
      [*] SwitchBack 2.2 Submission...
      [*] Symbionts 2.3
      [*] TidBITS#205/06-Dec-93
      [*] Trincoll Journal 11.18.93
      [*] Trincoll Journal 12.02.93
      [*] Unprotect XCMD.cpt.hqx
      14' Monitor
      660AV and HP Deskwriter (Q)
      840AV resolution switching
      Abaton Scan 300/GS
      AppleScript & finder
      AppleScript (Q)
      Bibliography Maker, Metronome Application Wanted
      CD-ROM Drive (Q)
      CD-ROM Encyclopedias available (Q)
      CE Toolbox 1.7 and Now Utilities
      Chicago command
      cmd key, splat key, flower key, fan key...
      DeskPaint/DeskDraw (C)
      Digitizing sounds
      Disk Partition Responses
      downloadable postscript fonts
      Evaluation of Fax OCR Software (Q)
      FWD>RE>>software dispatch
      Help Downloading
      Help needed with BinHex with Unix
      Help reordering a Filemaker Pro database
      Houdini release
      Icon Colours and Label Tints?
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #234
      Internet at Hong Kong University
      Internet programs on the Mac
      Kermit for the Mac Needed!
      localtalk-ethertalk bridges (A)
      Mac Video Pin-outs
      MacWarehouse $99 modem : Minitel comp.?
      mics (C)
      Misguided LaCie Corporate Policy
      Offline news
      Panorama (R)
      Panorama II
      QT Apple Commercials
      Quadra 840AV Memory
      Re-naming hard drives (summary)
      RS-422 serial vs LocalTalk (A)
      sAVe the disk bugs
      Searching for AppleSearch Info...
      Security software for student mac lab (A)
      SIMMs for MAC IIsi upgrade: how many is enough?
      Snotty Responses in Info Mac
      software dispatch (2 msgs)
      sound volume changes on its own (Q)
      tcl - tickl where?
      Toolbook
      Toolbook (A)
      Using BOTH ethernet and AppleTalk [A]
      Watermarks (C)
      Word 5.1 plug in
      Z-Modem UNIX upload trouble

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 20:09:56 -0500 (EST)
From: David Lebel <lebel@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: [*] Audiodeck 1.0.4 -- Audio CD player

Here's my submission for your archives (yet another time... :-))

	Audiodeck 1.0.4
	by David Lebel -- Ariane Soft
	<lebel@IRO.UMontreal.CA>

	Copyright (c) 1993 -- Ariane Soft, All rights reserved.


	Audiodeck is a new audio CD player for Apple CD-ROM player
family. It features nice LCD display, shuffle mode, auto-play, four
distinct types of time display, automatic disc and track name display
using CD-Remote CD database, and many other things. The interface is
intuitive and good looking.

	This software is distributed as CD-ware. Please refer to the
documentation for more details...

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/audiodeck-104.hqx; 58K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 16:58:32 -0600
From: elaine l benfatto <EPWare@world.std.com>
Subject: [*] ColorKnit 3.0.1

ColorKnit 3.0.1
Copyright 1993  E&P Ware

ColorKnit 3.0.1 is a specialized paint program intended for use by
textile designers
(knitting, cross-stitch, needlepoint) who need to produce patterns within
grids.
______________________
GRID: Features a 110 x 110 unit grid; resizable grid units (from 1 to 15
per inch.
Supports independent horizontal and vertical measures), adjustable guide
lines.
Includes a special knitting preview called "Stitches" that changes grid
units into
the shape of knitted stitches, to give the user an accurate preview of
how a design
would look when knitted up.
_______________________
DRAWING TOOLS: Pencil, paintbrush, paintbucket, and pattern generators.
Selection
tool with duplicate, cut, paste, and flip horizontal/flip vertical routines.
_______________________
COLOR:  20 color palette.  Comes with three color libraries (standard
colors,
light colors, and dark colors) which can be customized with the standard
Apple
Color Picker. Background color can be changed from white to a default color.
In black & white, supports a palette of 20 black & white patterns.
_______________________
VIEWS: Standard (100%), print preview (33%)
_______________________
PRINTING:  Prints to any printer, (Imagewriter, laser; color or black &
white),
although best results come from a laser printer. Also exports images to
PICT files.
_______________________
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: System 6.0 or later.  Mac Plus or later. Automatically
senses if color monitor is present, and adjusts palettes for the system
in which it
is installed. Requires 500K of RAM.

ColorKnit is a shareware program.  $15.00 shareware fee.  See the ReadMe
file for details.

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/util/color-knit-301.hqx; 103K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 17:10:08 -0600
From: Rusty Harold <eharold@pilot.njin.net>
Subject: [*] comp.sys.mac FAQ

This is the latest version of the Introductory FAQ list for the
Macintosh newsgroups.  Enjoy.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/comp-sys-mac-general-faq-222.txt; 63K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 22:18:22 EST
From: gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nathan Gasser)
Subject: [*] Hyper MapEdit

Please accept this submission to your archives.
It is a HyperCard stack which facilitates construction of
<ISMAP> map configuration files for the NCSA httpd WWW server.

Note:  If you have no dealings with the World Wide Web, this
file will be 99% useless to you.

Nathan Gasser
gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/net/hyper-map-edit-hc.hqx; 50K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 16:57:56 -0600
From: elaine l benfatto <EPWare@world.std.com>
Subject: [*] KeyWack 1.2

KeyWack
)1993 E&P Ware

This is a game for babies who like to sit at their
parentUs Mac and bang the keyboard. Keywack makes banging
even more fun by drawing shapes (diamonds, stars, ovals, smiley faces,
numbers, letters etc.) and playing random sounds and songs as the keys
are wacked.

Also protects against little ones renaming files, hard drive etc.

Version 1.2 adds a few more sounds and now responds to command, option,
shift and control keys.

% For ages 1 to 5 or higher.
% Freeware.
% Runs on any Mac with System 6.0.2 or higher. (Looks best in color.)
% Stuffit Lite archive.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/key-whack-12.hqx; 259K]

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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 11:40:16 EST
From: Don Markuson <dmm@tiger1.CV.COM>
Subject: [*] LaserWriter 8.x Hacks & Patches, version 1.1

Enclosed is a brief report on hacks and patches folks can make to the
LaserWriter 8.x driver to tailor it better to their needs or environment.
It covers how to:

  - Make the SETUP button in the Chooser always active
  - Disable the AppleTalk requirement (use to only generate PS files)
  - Select N-up choices from the Print Dialog
  - Modify N-up choices for additional/other layouts
  - Disable N-up page borders
  - Modify which fonts are included in PS files
  - Disallow printing of multiple copies
  - Avoid unnecessary use of the Symbol font for certain symbols

..Don Markuson
  dmm@tiger1.cv.com

[Archived as /info-mac/prn/laserwriter-8x-hacks-11.txt; 16K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 00:15:04 -0500 (EST)
From: f8dy@netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Mousebroken 1.0.1 (control panel)

Mousebroken is a control panel which will give you greater control over your
mouse (or less control, depending on how you look at it).  It comes with 13
mouse modules, each designed to alter your mouse's behavior in a different
way.  New mouse modules can easily be designed and added to Mousebroken.  The
mouse modules in this archive are public domain; source code and instructions
will be uploaded in a separate archive.

This control panel is free and is distributed under the GNU General Public
License; complete C source code will be uploaded to the archive sites.  If
you do not have FTP access, e-mail the author for a copy of the control panel,
the source code, or a list of other programs by the same author.  The address
is f8dy@netaxs.com.

Version 1.0.1 fixes a bug that caused the error dialog box to be displayed
incorrectly on black & white Macs.  This version of the control panel should
work on any Macintosh, under either system 6 or 7.  Some individual mouse
modules may have problems on systems with multiple monitors.  Please report
any bugs/comments/suggestions to f8dy@netaxs.com.

Mousebroken 1.0.1 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/mouse-broken-101.hqx; 57K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 00:16:40 -0500 (EST)
From: f8dy@netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Mousebroken 1.0.1 (source code)

Mousebroken is a control panel which will give you greater control over your
mouse (or less control, depending on how you look at it).  It comes with 13
mouse modules, each designed to alter your mouse's behavior in a different
way.  New mouse modules can easily be designed and added to Mousebroken.  The
mouse modules in this archive are public domain; feel free to design your
own!

The Mousebroken control panel is free and is distributed under the GNU
General Public License.  This archive contains complete THINK C 6.0.1 source
code and project files for the control panel.  This archive also contains
source code to 13 sample mouse modules and a blank module prototype (quite
well commented, too); these modules are public domain.  If you do not have FTP
access, e-mail the author for a copy of the control panel, the source code, or
a list of other programs by the same author.  The address is f8dy@netaxs.com.

Version 1.0.1 fixes a bug that caused the error dialog box to be displayed
incorrectly on black & white Macs.  This version of the control panel should
work on any Macintosh, under either system 6 or 7.  Some individual mouse
modules may have problems on systems with multiple monitors.  Please report
any bugs/comments/suggestions to f8dy@netaxs.com.

This code demonstrates the in's and out's of writing a control panel,
advanced file maintenance, INIT installation, preference file maintenance,
notification through the Notification Manager, VBL installation and removal,
and the correct way to access Quickdraw globals in a control panel.

Mousebroken 1.0.1 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/mouse-broken-101-c.hqx; 228K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 12:30:20 -0600
From: "Peter Storey" <p_storey%Postoffice@Twilight1h141.its.utas.edu.au>
Subject: [*] PhotoSizer 1.01 (repost)

Photosizer is a Mac application for desktop publisher. It replaces the
traditional proportion wheel (for sizing of reproductions of images) with
greatly enhanced features. Details of operation are found in the the
"About" item under the Apple. Photosizer is Freeware.
Some improvements in version 1.01. Photosizer can now be operated entirely
from the keyboard (with Tab & Return keys). Compatible with the new AV Macs
(840/660). Version 2.0 is in the works, please submit suggestions to fax#
+61-02502654 (that is Australia 002-502654) or to
Adrian c/o      p_storey@postoffice.utas.edu.au
Regards, Adrian.

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/util/photo-sizer-101.hqx; 50K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 11:11:49 PST
From: gbrochu@robin.cti.ulaval.ca (Gerard Brochu)
Subject: [*] Romi-1.2

Romi is a program (Shareware $10) that lets you play games of Rummy
against the Macintosh at 3 different levels of expertise. This program
runs on any Macintosh with System 6.0.4 and higher, in color and black
 & white. With System 7.0 and higher, you can use balloon help.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/crd/romi-12.hqx; 303K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 10:55:06 -0800 (PST)
From: harrym@netcom.com (Harry Myhre)
Subject: [*] SITcomm AppleScript Dictionary

I was working with SITcomm and AppleScript last night and
this file appeared in SITcomm's notebook. It looks like
an AppleScript guide for SITcomm.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/sitcomm-as-guide.hqx; 7K]

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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 14:07:05 +0800
From: North_TJ@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: [*] Strip-Mac! 2.4 -- Adult party game

A quick outline of the game: Strip-Mac! is a risque, computer-moderated
party game for adults. Briefly, the game plays as follows. Players take
turns in drawing a playing card from the deck. If a player fails to turn
up an appropriate card then s/he must choose between options that include:
    (a)  removing a piece of clothing;
    (b)  taking a 'punishment'; and
    (c)  purchasing a 'reward'.

Play continues until one or all players are naked. What happens next is up to
you.  :-)

Changes and additions to this version (2.4) are detailed in the enclosed
"Revision history" file.

Cheers,
Tim North.
Internet: North_TJ@cc.curtin.edu.au  FAX:   (+61 9) 351 2584

[Archived as /info-mac/game/crd/strip-mac-24.hqx; 182K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:17:42 +1300
From: jeff@elwing.otago.ac.nz (Jeff Home)
Subject: [*] SwitchBack 2.2 Submission...

This is the latest version of SwitchBack (version 2.2).  Please replace any
older versions with this one.

What is SwitchBack?

SwitchBack is a utility program that synchronises two folders, so that both
folders have a copy of the most recent version of their files.  The two
folders can reside on the same volume, on two different volumes, or indeed
on two different computers connected by a network.

It has been designed principally for those people with two computers
(especially desktop and PowerBook) who need to ensure that they have the
most recent version of their documents available to them.

It also functions well as a simple backup utility for people with one
computer.  For example, a folder residing on your main hard disk can be
linked to a folder residing on a floppy disk.

Because SwitchBack supports the required AppleEvent suite, and is fully
AppleScript-aware, you can use AppleScript to execute a series of backups
automatically.  Programs that permit scheduled execution of scripts could
permit you to do a daily backup, and then shut the machine off.  This
ability is very powerful.


What this Archive Contains.

SwitchBack 2.2
SwitchBack Help
User's Guide (MWII) in MacWrite II format
Read Me (this document)
Registration Form

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/switch-back-22.hqx; 145K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 22:42:22 EST
From: Kevin Hardman -- Personal Account <hard@rock.concert.net>
Subject: [*] Symbionts 2.3

Announcing Symbionts 2.3

Symbionts 2.3 adds the following enhancements and bug fixes:

- Fixed many problems with sets.
- Added better support for aliases to unavailable volumes.  Specifically the
  user is no longer prompted to mount AppleShare volumes.
- Added better support for extensions whose icons are not in the desktop
  database.
- Added support for enabling and disabling folders in the Apple Menu Items
  and Startup Items folders.
- Added support for custom icons for files and folders.

--Kevin
| B. Kevin Hardman                    | Internet: hard@rock.concert.net     |

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/symbionts-23.hqx; 97K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 20:55:41 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#205/06-Dec-93

TidBITS#205/06-Dec-93

The word processor wars heat up, and we review WordPerfect's
   latest release, 3.0. We also examine a MessagePad bug that may
   bite in an alarming way, examine how to determine your version
   of Quicken for update purposes, discuss a new video card from
   Apple via Radius, and glance in shock at why Apple isn't
   establishing a new facility in Williamson Country, Texas.
   Hypertext proceedings, great quotes, CPU comments, and HP
   rebates fill out the issue.

Topics:
    MailBITS/06-Dec-93
    Nothing Like A Little Bigotry To Brighten Your Day
    Apple/Radius Card Looks to the Future
    Quicken Updates
    Alarming MessagePad Bug
    WordPerfect Mac 3.0: The Next Best Thing
    Reviews/06-Dec-93

[Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-205.etx; 30K]

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 03:05:09 -0500
From: adams-peter@mail.trincoll.edu (Peter Adams)
Subject: [*] Trincoll Journal 11.18.93

Greetings Info-mac readers,

The latest issues of the Trincoll Journal have just been uploaded to the
archive. However, issue 11.18.93 marks a fundamental change in the way we
distribute the Journal.

>From now on we will be distributing the Trincoll Journal each week on the
World Wide Web. To access the Journal, using a WWW browser such as NCSA
Mosaic, simply open a URL to:  http://www.trincoll.edu/homepage.html

"So what is in the archive you just uploaded?" For those of you without
TCP/IP connections to the internet, we have uploaded the Journal's files so
that you might view them, using NCSA mosaic (available at info-mac),
locally on your mac.

The READ ME enclosed in the 11.18.93 or 12.02.93 issue archives will guide
you through the process.

Please do take a look and remember to drop us a note letting us know what
you think!

The Editors

p.s. if you have any problems reading the Journal with NCSA Mosaic please
send Mail to: Journal@mail.trincoll.edu

THE TRINCOLL JOURNAL
A Liberal Arts Multimedia Magazine.
Located on the WWW at: http://www.trincoll.edu/homepage.html
For more information send mail to: Journal@mail.trincoll.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/per/trn/trincoll-journal-93-11-18.hqx; 815K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 03:05:09 -0500
From: adams-peter@mail.trincoll.edu (Peter Adams)
Subject: [*] Trincoll Journal 12.02.93

Greetings Info-mac readers,

The latest issues of the Trincoll Journal have just been uploaded to the
archive. However, issue 11.18.93 marks a fundamental change in the way we
distribute the Journal.

>From now on we will be distributing the Trincoll Journal each week on the
World Wide Web. To access the Journal, using a WWW browser such as NCSA
Mosaic, simply open a URL to:  http://www.trincoll.edu/homepage.html

"So what is in the archive you just uploaded?" For those of you without
TCP/IP connections to the internet, we have uploaded the Journal's files so
that you might view them, using NCSA mosaic (available at info-mac),
locally on your mac.

The READ ME enclosed in the 11.18.93 or 12.02.93 issue archives will guide
you through the process.

Please do take a look and remember to drop us a note letting us know what
you think!

The Editors

p.s. if you have any problems reading the Journal with NCSA Mosaic please
send Mail to: Journal@mail.trincoll.edu

THE TRINCOLL JOURNAL
A Liberal Arts Multimedia Magazine.
Located on the WWW at: http://www.trincoll.edu/homepage.html
For more information send mail to: Journal@mail.trincoll.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/per/trn/trincoll-journal-93-12-02.hqx; 1058K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 14:34:54 -0700
From: Bruce Carter <bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu>
Subject: [*] Unprotect XCMD.cpt.hqx

Greetings,

Following is the Unprotect XCMD stack.  This external will remove the
protection
and password from HyperCard stacks that is set with the Protect Stack menu
option.
I am not the author, author information is in the stack, but am simply
uploading
the stack in response to several requests generated by it's reference in the
HyperCard FAQ.  Use at your own risk, but I've never had a problem with it.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/unprotect.hqx; 19K]

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 11:12:40 -0500
From: denayer@deso.ucl.ac.be
Subject: 14' Monitor

I am looking for a 14' color monitor that I could share between my LCIII
and a Pc (SVGA). Wich is the best choice: Nec, Brilliance (Phillips),
others in the 500$-1000$ range?

Please email your answers to me. I will sumarize. Thank you.

Benot De Nayer
Centre de Droit de la Consommation
Universit Catholique de Louvain
1, place des doyens
1348 Louvain la Neuve

tel: 010/478538
fax: 010/478532

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Date: 7 Dec 1993 15:03:59 EST
From: "Jeff Kline"  <egkline@befac.indstate.edu>
Subject: 660AV and HP Deskwriter (Q)

Well I have documented an interesting bug/interaction between the
660 av and the HP software for the original Deskwriter.  I have
documented this and can create the problem at will.
I am wondering if anyone has heard of a fix.  I will be contacting
HP and Apple soon with the info.

System:

Brand Spankin new 660av.
system 7.1.x
no speech recognition
8 megs of ram
80 meg HD, 100 Meg external HD
WP 2.12 (I do not think that WP is the culprit)
standard ex and cps
popchar, superclock, central point mactools software, escapade,
extensions manager, alias menu, MICN, diskexpress II (latest
version), and a couple of others.


Even if I only run WP and no other software problem still arises.
What happens is that while printing on a serial Deskwriter, with the
Background stuff allowed, if i Just sit there while it prints the
document and do not switch apps or documents, then no problems.  If
I switch documents, or apps, then I start to get garbage as output.
This is consisitent.  I need to try it with TeachText to see if it
is consistent.  The garbage looks like random characters, boxes with
characters inside, random punctuation.

Cable are fine, deskwriter works fine with my old SE.  I tried
upgrading to HP 4.0, still happens.  Happens with 3.1 also.

Any suggestions.  Other problems have been when this garbage occurs
and I try to stop it sometimes, the machine crashes, and the AV
software (for the monitor) gets corrupted.  I cannot reproduce this,
and I won't since i cannot always fix it  right away.  SOmetimes it
is hard to fix this because when the software goes bad the monitor
sometimes goes dark on restart.  It is hard to work without a
monitor  :-)


Does HP have an e-mail presence for bug reports, since the call is
not free??

Please e-mail me direct with suggestions, etc.

Jeff

egkline@befac.indstate.edu

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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 10:25:31 GMT
From: M.B.B.Bointon@lut.ac.uk (mbb Bointon) (mbb Bointon)
Subject: 840AV resolution switching

This is something I would kill for...

Something like Monitor Switch, or Radius Soft PrecisionColor to allow me to
use
my AV at a resolution higher than 640*480

I am using a Sony multisync that will quite happily do 19" mode

I would prefer this to making or buying an adaptor simply for the convenience
-
it is what I'm used to!

I guess what would be really neat is to get the AV to completely ignore the
sense pins on the monitor port and simply allow selection of any resolution
that
it can actually do (I wouldn't even mind a restart...).

Could some enterprising machacker look at this please? It would make my
day...

Thanks,

Marcus

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 14:48:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Kelsey <skk@strauss.udel.edu>
Subject: Abaton Scan 300/GS

Hi All -- I borrowed a Abaton Scan 300/gs scanner.  The person I borrowed
it from has lost the utility disk that would allow me to load the DA that
lets me run the scanner. He no longer uses the scanner and the mac that he
was using no longer has the DA.  I tried calling Abaton and was put on hold
for about 30 minutes. I hung up.

 Does anyone have the utility disk for that would make this scanner run?
Could you possible upload it to Sumex? Or does anyone now where I could
get a copy.

Thanks in Advance

Scott
skk@strauss.udel.edu

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 05:01:33 PST
From: vsalon@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il
Subject: AppleScript & finder

Hi,

Does AppleScript know how to interact with finder, or it can interact
only with special application  ?

Can i record keystoke in the finder level ?

Thanks in advance. Alon

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 23:03 EST
From: Don't Panic! <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: AppleScript (Q)

Dear Netters,
I remember not long ago someone posted the directory path link at ftp
applelink.apple.com to get Applescript.  Could someone send that path again
please?  BTW is that version there compatible with a Mac LC, System 7.0.0?
Thank you.

P.S. Please e-mail the reply.

Sincerely,
ABRODY@VAX.CLARKU.EDU

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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 14:34:36 +0000
From: Raghbir Singh <R.Sandhu@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Bibliography Maker, Metronome Application Wanted

Hi,

I am looking for a couple of pieces of shareware/freeware which MUST
exist out there somewhere. I would like to build a bibliography to
assist with writing papers, etc. and I was wondering of there is any
kind of application which can do this in conjunction with Microsoft
Word.

Also, if anyone knows of a simple application which operates like a
metronome (outputting simple clicks), I would be very grateful if they
would let me know.

Raghbir.
rsandhu@cs.ucl.ac.uk

ps I first sent this to info-mac-request yesterday by mistake - sorry.

------------------------------

Date: Wed,  8 Dec 1993 09:26:28 +0000
From: LCDRB Wright <LCDRB_Wright@unixlink.uscga.edu>
Subject: CD-ROM Drive (Q)

I am considering purchasing a CD-ROM drive in the near future and would like
to get some opinions.
My set-up is a Mac IIsi 5/80 with one internal Superdrive and external
connections to a modem and an old Imagewriter (from before adding the I).  My
questions are:
1.  Can I install an internal CD-ROM?  How would I put CD's in it?  (I don't
want to lose my floppy drive.)
2.  What CD-ROM drives would you recommend for under $500?

Brian Wright
Assistant Professor of MIS
U.S. Coast Guard Academy
wright@dcseq.uscga.edu

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Date: Wed,  8 Dec 1993 08:57:45 -0500
From: "Andrew E. Scheck" <aes@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu>
Subject: CD-ROM Encyclopedias available (Q)

	My father-in-law wants to buy his grandchildren a CD-ROM Encyclopedia
for Christmas and asked me to choose one. The only one I've been able to
locate is from MacWarehouse "Groliers" for $99. I've heard that there are at
least one or two others available. He wants it to have pictures, sound,
movies, etc.--all the stuff you'd expect on a Macintosh.

	Does anybody have any experience with this one or any others and can
make a recommendation? What are the prices, features, update options, etc.
Right now my oldest is 8 but he's got four more comming up every two years
behind him--so this should eventually get a lot of use for school (at least
that is grandpa's expectation).

Thanks,

Andy Scheck
aes@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 08:49:18 EST
From: Christian_Gingras <userID@host.domain.org>
Subject: CE Toolbox 1.7 and Now Utilities

Regarding the CEToolbox-NowToolbox "affair"(!), Paul Sheldon writes to me:
>Instead of moving utility out of systems folder, you might have simply
started with the shift key down and disabled all extensions.

I understand very clearly what you are telling me and I surely tried this (I
am
a Mac user since the early days of 1984 ;-) before I did what I did. It didn't
work. That's why I don't understand what happened.

I had to start my Mac with the extensions but without NowToolbox present in
the
System Folder. Amazing but true! In all my years as a Mac evangelist, fanatic
user, president of a user group (and all the fun that comes with these
"titles"!), I learned that you can't always explain what happens on this
wonderful machine!!

Have a good Christmas vacation folks!


Christian Gingras
(Christian_Gingras@UQSS.UQuebec.CA)

*** Quebec City, home of Club Macintosh de Quebec...
*** More than 2000 french-speaking members!!

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 15:47:11 MST
From: jlundell@opus.com (Jonathan Lundell)
Subject: Chicago command

Command in Chicago is control-Q; the control codes generally have a lot
of key symbols (option, shift, etc).

------------------------------

Date: 7 Dec 1993 11:11:13 -0500
From: "dlawrence" <dlawrence@arpa.mil>
Subject: cmd key, splat key, flower key, fan key...

=> Darn it, could someone please remind me how to create the cmd-key
=> character in the Chicago font.

I don't believe that the cloverleaf is a member of the Chicago set. It is
however a member of the MerrionSquare font that Apple ocassionally bundles
with
developer gunk.

And to prevent this in the future, you should have PopChar 2.5.2 by Gunther
Blaschek. It's a nifty utility that you drop in your system folder, and upon
restart, adds a little "P" icon to the menu bar. When editing text, you can
click on this "P", and you'll be presented with a full font map. Drag to the
character you want, and PopChar pastes it in place...in the font you're
currently working in. Neat! And it's available at all the usual sites.

David Lawrence -> dlawrence@arpa.mil...CIS:75300,2460...AOL:
OLTDavid/DoctorMac
*** Macintosh Product Evaluation Specialist <-- coolest job *in* the world ***

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 20:13:34 -0800 (PST)
From: John Thoo <jbthoo@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: DeskPaint/DeskDraw (C)

On 21 Nov 1993 I posted:
> I got an offer in the mail advertising the DeskPaint & DeskDraw package
> (Zedcor, Inc.) available for $29.95 + shipping.  My questions are,
>
>  1. Is this package worth the price?
>  2. How much disc space and RAM is required?
>  3. Can the draw program save files as EPSF?

Several folks replied to me and to the imdigest directly.
Many thanks to each of them (you know who you are ;-)

The concensus is that  1. it's hard to beat a $29.95 price for almost
any software; 2. amount of RAM/disc space required depends on whether
color is used (approximately); 3. DDraw cannot save files as EPSF.

Number 3 has prompted me to order Expert Draw instead, as I need to
save as EPSF.  As it turns out, I took advantage of the free Color It!
offer, and it arrived with an offer to purchase Expert Draw for $19.95,
good until 31December.  If you're interested, their number is 800-759-2562.

Again, thanks to all the kind folks who responded to my query.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 10:51:33 +0100
From: keunen@montefiore.ulg.ac.be (Vincent Keunen)
Subject: Digitizing sounds

At 11:41 7/12/93 -0500, Ming Chen wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>        I was playing with my Quadra 660AV and I was wondering if there is
>any way that I can digitize sounds directly from audio CD's.  Is there an
>application (free or commercial) that would allow me to play sounds from
>the CDROM drive and record the sound, turning it into a system 7 sound
>file?
>
>
>
>        .....Ming
>
>Ming Chen               Student Assistant at Distributed Computing
>CHEN91@POTSDAM.EDU      State University of New York at Potsdam College

Look into your ReadMe file and in your docs of the AV; it's explained.


Vincent

--
Vincent Keunen
R&D, Software Engineer
keunen@montefiore.ulg.ac.be
tel: +32 41 407282
fax: +32 41 481170

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 09:01:42 EST
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Disk Partition Responses

Recently, I asked about disk partitioning.  I received a number of
excellent replies (thanks to everyone who took the time to respond :-).

To summarize:

1.  Apple's HD formatter can *not* create multiple HFS partitions.
2.  Sumex has a neat formatter called SetupPartitions that does
    create multiple HFS hard partitions with the HD formatter.
3.  Silverlining does not support the DMA that are in the newer
    Quadras.

Thanks again to all who responded!

Jeffrey Fritz
West Virginia University
jfritz@wvnvm.wvnet.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 12:32:55 GMT
From: phy6jem@sun.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: downloadable postscript fonts

I have a Mac hooked up to a DEC1172 laserwriter which has a
postscript interpreter but only a small number of fonts installed.
To use even fairly standard fonts like NewCenturySchoolbook or
Zapfdingbats I need downloadable postscript fonts.  I understand
that I will need separate files for bold and italic too.
Where do I get them from?
My local Apple dealer wasn't very helpful and all
the font catalogues I've seen deal with fonts other than the
ones that are normally installed in Apple Laserwriters.  Is there
an Apple Postscript font disk somewhere or a server with this stuff on?
	       John McMillan
	       phy6jem@sun.leeds.ac.uk

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 10:09:52 PST
From: handel@sfu.ca
Subject: Evaluation of Fax OCR Software (Q)

My USRobotics Mac&Fax modem came bundled with FAXstf software that
does not include Optical Character Recognition.  OCR capability is
offered for another $99 (US).  However, the Globe & Mail reports that
"Delrina is offering a $59 [Canadian] competitive upgrade for users of
other fax software" that includes both fax software and OCR.

MacWorld reviewed fax modems in the October issue, and didn't mention
Delrina at all in its discussion of Fax software.  While it
recommended FAXstf, the MacWorld piece did not evaluate the OCR
capability of any fax software.

So the questions are:
(1) How powerful is the OCR software of _either_ vendor?
(2) How good is the Delrina Fax PRO package generally?

Can anyone point to helpful reviews, or comment from first-hand
experience?  Reply to me directly, and I'll summarize for the net.

Thanks one and all.

Jay Handel
handel@sfu.ca

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 08:24:44 +0000 (U)
From: George Tempel <tempel@MONMOUTH-ETDL1.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: FWD>RE>>software dispatch

	Reply to:   FWD>RE>>software dispatch
Saul...
i think perhaps the trigger word was "Trojan Horse"
which, when used in the context, implies a wanton
subversion and maliciousness. We agree that neither
seems to be in order, so the choice of terms was
incorrect.

I thank you for replying, and wish you better luck
in your software installations.

george

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 17:50:58 -0800 (PST)
From: "Hugh C. Vidos" <hvidos@ms.washington.edu>
Subject: Help Downloading

I have trid to download several "hqx" files unsuccessfully.  Every time
they are about 97 - 98% complete, the file stops being sent & I get a
message saying that the command could not be completed successfully.  I
don't that it is related to file size, because I was able to download over
1300k of the civilization demo.  I am using Zmodem transfer.  I have an LC
and I am running 7.1.  any ideas???

thanks,
Hugh
hvidos@ms.washington.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 18:21:50 JST
From: Takashi Tokunaga <taka-tok@sipeb.aoyama.ac.jp>
Subject: Help needed with BinHex with Unix

Hello.  I am not sure if this question is right to post it on here but
I need a help.

My server is Unix and I use Open Windows.  I ftped and received some files.
Since Mac is not connected to the Unix, (but IBM PC is) I have to download
hqx files into PC with floppy and then, I bring downloaded hqx files to Mac.
By using Dos Mounter Plus and Stuffit Expander, I am able to use files
finally.

Since I have to download files into floppy(Mac and PC are not connected), I
cannot download files which are larger then Floppy size.(1.44meg)  I have some
files which are over 2megs.  Are there any program I can use to split those
hqx files into half or smaller sized so that it will fit into the floppy
safely
while they are still located on Unix or PC?  It would be nice if it is
shareware but commercial will do.

Thanks much in advance.. Takashi.



------------------------------

Date: 7 Dec 1993 11:17:56 -0500
From: "dlawrence" <dlawrence@arpa.mil>
Subject: Help reordering a Filemaker Pro database

=> I've only owned Filemaker Pro (Mac) for 2 days, and have spent much of
=> that
=> time in RTFM mode, but don't see a solution to this common problem:
=> 1) Create a database with fields A, B, C, X, Y, Z
=> 2) Enter a bunch of data
=> 3) Discover you need field D, and want it to appear between C and X
=>
=> Their instructions ofr reodering a database (by specifying custom order)
=> changes
=> the order of the fields when it lists them, but does not affect the data
=> at
=> all.
=> I'd be happy to copy this DB to another one, for exanple, to get the
=> reordering
=> done, but don't see anything on doing that.  Can someone either tell me
=> how to
=> do it, or at least point me the the right part of the "FM"?

I'm not quite sure if you want to...

A: reorder it in a layout (which is pretty easy...just get into layout mode,
drag the icons of the fields already there out of the way, and then drag a new
filed icon to the space created and tell the dialog box that pops up that you
want "D") or

B: reorder the tab order for entry in the layout (which is also pretty easy,
just get into layout mode and select Tab Order under the Arrange menu)

C: you're just a neatnik. :)

Please expound further.

David Lawrence -> dlawrence@arpa.mil...CIS:75300,2460...AOL:
OLTDavid/DoctorMac
*** Macintosh Product Evaluation Specialist <-- coolest job *in* the world ***

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 11:14:19 -0500
From: denayer@deso.ucl.ac.be
Subject: Houdini release

When is the Houdini card suposed to be released?
Benot De Nayer
Centre de Droit de la Consommation
Universit Catholique de Louvain
1, place des doyens
1348 Louvain la Neuve

tel: 010/478538
fax: 010/478532

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:25:02 -0800
From: Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca
Subject: Icon Colours and Label Tints?

Hello all:

Can anyone explain to me (e-mail preferred) exactly how icon colours are
affected by the Finder's label colours? For example, when I label something
green, most of the icon's colours acquire a green tint, but others are
unaffected. I've been trying to re-colour the beautiful diskette icons in
Discolour so the diskette remains Sony blue but the label portion changes
colour according to the Finder label I apply.

Thanks much

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:06:36 +0100
From: mfm@login.dkuug.dk (Fearghas McKay)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #234

In your message you write:
>
>Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 03:35:42 GMT
>From: Sven Guckes <guckes@inf.fu-berlin.de>
>Subject: UMICH:/mac/misc/documentation/mactcppatch.cpt.hqx
>
>UMICH:/mac/misc/documentation/mactcppatch.cpt.hqx
>
>Alright, an updater to MacTCP 1.1.1.
>But it's just the updater application!
>
>No docs included with the (CompactPro) archive, nor with the application.
>OK, there is some text in the hqx file; but that one doesn't explain
>what is fixed, nor what the result will be.
>
>Dear MacApplicationUpdaters,
>please, please, please - include some information!!!
>Thank you!
>
>Sven :)  [I feel much better now!]


You will probably find the info in the header of the .hqx file before the
binhex bit starts.


Fearghas

Edinburgh
Scotland

in DK till 13/12/93

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 15:57:14 EST
From: "Sid B. Bernstein" (AED-EWD) <sidb@PICA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Internet at Hong Kong University

	Hi,

	One of my co-workers will be in Hong Kong for several weeks in
January.  Is there anybody there with internet access that he can contact so
that he can access his mail and send stuff back here?  Can he get an account
for a limited period?

						Thanx,
						Sid
						sidb@pica.army.mil

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 09:54:21 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Internet programs on the Mac

In Regards to your letter <199312071411.AA22549@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> For reading and sending news and email (which I do a lot), I have been using
> a Mac with a terminal emulator connected through to a Unix network on which
> I use trn (threaded news reder), Postnews (for posting news), and MH (for
> sending, receiving and filtering email). I also use ftp, gopher, archie, and
> now mosaic for the WWW.
>
> I now have to decide whether to move to the X-based versions of these Unix
> programs, and use MacX on the Mac, or to move to Mac-based products.

Some Mac-based products...mostly free or shareware.

News = NewsWatcher, Nuntius, InterNews
Mail = Eudora 2.0 (commercial, but includes filtering; 1.4 is free)
FTP = Fetch
Gopher = TurboGopher, the fastest Gopher client over slow links
Archie = Archie 1.0, Anarchie 1.00 (can also retrieve found files)
WWW = NCSA Mosaic for Macintosh

All of these Macintosh programs require MacTCP, and all are available
on my FTP site, ftp.tidbits.com in /pub/tidbits/tisk

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 12:26:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel.Frohlich@UC.Edu
Subject: Kermit for the Mac Needed!

Hey all,
	Does anyone know where to find a copy of a shareware package called
	"MacKermit" ?

	Please let me know or upload it to the IM archives.

	Also Does anyone know of Any app that will let me kermit
	from my mac (on ethernet) to our vax?

	I'm not looking for a full-blown terminal-emulator (I have
	one that can Kermit), just a small app that will allow
	me to Kermit w/o frills.

			Thanks,
				Dan Frohlich
				(Daniel.Frohlich@uc.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 11:16:28 +0100
From: robk@macdoos.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rob Kouwenberg)
Subject: localtalk-ethertalk bridges (A)

L.S.,

Seth wrote :

>we'd like to be able to print to the hp 4M from the other two computers in
>our lab (a centris 610 and quadra 610) and to keep the first centris on
>ethertalk. I know a software bridge will allow this, but then the printer
>will show up on the network and the business office will charge us for a
>full ethernet hookup (thats the policy).
>so, are there bridges that let you make the printer visible to only a few
>specific computers. Any suggestions welcome, also for bridges in general.

The Apple internet router package is able to do this. A pricing is approx
US$400. I suggest you also look at products as liason ( software ) or
etherprint {plus} ( hardware ) or a gatorbox ( hardware ). As I don't have
any experience about the other stuff, I can't say any more about them, else
than that they also might be of interest to you.

>thanks.

You're welcome !

Greetings, Rob Kouwenberg

(*robk@stack.urc.tue.nl,Gr.Adolfstraat86,5616BX,Eindhoven,Holland*)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 23:47:51 -0500
From: "Ryan W. McRonald" <ryanm@YorkU.CA>
Subject: Mac Video Pin-outs

Netters,

  Can anyone provide the signal pin-outs for the macintosh standard
video out connector?  The senario is that I want to save the $600.00
for a macintosh monitor and use an Amiga RGB monitor.  The amiga manual
shows that it's video connector has:
i)   RGB analog out
ii)  RGB digital out
iii) Sync
I belive that the monitor only recived the analog RGB signals.

If anyone has tried this our has any comments or advice on attaching
non-macintosh displays via the standard video out, or with the new
AV video out  I'd be happy to provide the list with a summary.

regards,

Ryan McRonald & Laurence Montgomery



--
mail me: ryanm@yorku.ca
finger me:ryanm@sanmiguel.huma.yorku.ca
find me: pub@calumet.yorku.ca

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 12:20:08 +0100
From: ptr@GRECO2.POLYTECHNIQUE.FR (Peter Goedtkindt)
Subject: MacWarehouse $99 modem : Minitel comp.?

Does someone know if the modem complies to the Minitel standard which is
heavily used here in France? What about Voice mail?
Please CC to my persanal E-mail adres. TIA
Peter Goedtkindt, Ecole polytechnique, France

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 13:54:21 EST
From: "M. David Greenspon" <GREMICF@YaleVM.CIS.Yale.edu>
Subject: mics (C)

In Info-Mac Digest V11 #235, ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst) wrote:

>From TidBITS#204...

>**Borrowing Microphones** -- Mark Anbinder <mha@baka.ithaca.ny.us>
>  writes: Purchasers of Apple's new low-end Macintosh systems will
>  be surprised if they try to use a borrowed Apple microphone in
>  the computers' microphone jacks. The Performa 475 and 476, LC
>  475, and Quadra 605 computers require the new PlainTalk microphone
>  in order to record sounds using the microphone port, but don't
>  include it. Microphones bundled with previous Macintosh models
>  won't work, because the PlainTalk microphone has a longer plug
>  (.75" rather than .5") and the old plug doesn't properly seat
>  inside the new jack.  [...]

This is just a completely unfounded myth.  A number of people on the
USENET newsgroup comp.sys.mac.hardware pointed this out several days
ago.  Dale Adams, a hardware engineer at Apple, posted the following
on Sat, 4 Dec 1993 22:34:14 GMT:

>While it's true that these machines were designed to use the PlainTalk
>mic, it's certainly not true that they can't use anything else.  Any mic
>(or mic preamp) which puts out a line level signal will work.
>
>> This is due to the fact that the PT mic has a longer plug (.75 inch
>> vs. .5 inch).
>
>No, this isn't the reason.  The reason is, as stated above, is that the
>audio input on these machines requires a line level signal.  The PlainTalk
>mic provides this via an internal mic preamp.  The older Apple mic puts
>out far too weak a signal to be used with the input on the newer machines.

[...]

>> By the way, Radio Shack and a few other stores I called donot have any
>> 1/8 inch phono jack that is .75 inches long, whether it's stero or
>> mono or just a plug or a part of a mic.
>
>Not surprising.  But then you really don't want to use that anyway.  You
>can use a standard stereo mini plug (ring = right, tip = left [I may have
>these two backwards, but it doesn't really matter since the signal is
>mixed to mono before being digitized], sleeve = ground) as long as you
>feed it line level signals.  The Mac input jack has a 4th conductor that
>won't contact with a standard jack (it's used to provide power to the mic
>preamp).
>
>- Dale Adams

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 09:24:33 -0600
From: "Bill Wing" <wrw@cosmail1.ctd.ornl.gov>
Subject: Misguided LaCie Corporate Policy

I've watched a lot of flames here over the years as people expressed
displeasure with one company or another.  Frequently this has been over a
user's impression that the company "owed" them something in the way of
support they weren't getting.  Thus, it is with some reluctance that I post
this message.

Last week my LaCie 3.5" magneto-optical drive went belly-up.  The unit is
out of warranty (by about six weeks, but that is irrelevant).  I have been
using it for backup, doing regular incrementals of my system and
applications partitions to one disk, my documents to another (set) of
disks, and my e-mail to a third.  I have a pretty good collection of those
MO disks in my drawer.  I called LaCie's toll-free number and the tech
(very polite, very knowledgable) helped me verify what I already knew,
which was that with the LaCie on the SCSI chain the whole chain was dead -
removing it brought everything back to life.  He then shuffled his feet and
informed me that LaCie no longer offers any sort of out-of-warranty (pay
for) repair service!  They decided it wasn't cost effective for them.

I can (almost) understand this in the case of standard magnetic drives,
where a lot out-of-warranty service probably deals with head crashes, is
expensive, and doesn't result in happy customers.  LaCie probably regards
it as a net pain in the rear.  However, in the case of a magneto-optical
drive designed specifically to support vast amounts of off-line storage,
data recovery isn't the issue - reliability and safety is the issue.  When
I bought the drive, LaCie wasn't the cheapest, nor the fastest, but it did
have an excellent reputation for customer service.  Since I was buying the
drive for backup, that was a strong factor in my decision.  Now, I discover
that I can't even *buy* service for the drive!  This leaves me with limited
and distasteful options -  I can buy a replacement drive from a LaCie
competetor with (hopefully) a better committment to service.  But depending
on the mechanism they've used I risk not being able to read my present
disks.  Alternatively I can buy a replacment from LaCie (say what?!).
Finally, I can post this story to the net, and see what others think.  If
there is overwhelming agreement that the LaCie policy is wrong when applied
to MO drives, maybe they will listen and change their minds.  It will
probably be too late for me (I need to order a drive within a day or so),
but maybe it will save serious troubles for others.

Bill Wing

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 09:56:00 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Offline news

In Regards to your letter <199312071411.AA22549@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> Is there anything similar to MacSlurp that downloads news from NNTP server?
>  MacSlurp stops working for me, and I don't think our site use UUTP.

There's nothing like MacSlurp, but if you're willing to select the
messages manually, VersaTerm-Link can then download them to disk for
offline reading. It's commercial from Synergy.

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- ace@tidbits.com -- info@tidbits.com
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- tisk@tidbits.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed,  8 Dec 1993 09:31:12 +0000
From: LCDRB Wright <LCDRB_Wright@unixlink.uscga.edu>
Subject: Panorama (R)

Panorama is not a relational database.  It is a flat file database that
attempts to mimic the tables of a relational database using a spreadsheet type
data entry system.  It is a reasonable low level database system, but like any
flat file system it is fairly limited.

Brian Wright
Assistant Professor of MIS
U.S. Coast Guard Academy
wright@dcseq.uscga.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 18:39:47 -0600 (CST)
From: "William M. Porter" <WMPORTER@Jetson.UH.EDU>
Subject: Panorama II

Serona Blair asks:

   Does any one know anything about Panarama II (Database)? Is it a
   relational database or what? How are dabase files created? How well
   does it perform? How easy is it to change a database structure once it
   has been created and contains data? Does the data have to be unloaded?
   Does it have its own language or can it use other programming
   languages, such as C? What type of technical support exists from
   ProVUE Development?

Panorama II from ProVue is the main competition for FileMaker Pro from
Claris. Like FM Pro, Panorama II is *not* a relational database manager,
but it does have semi-relational capabilities that are fairly extensive.
That is, it has a very good "lookup" capability, which allows you from
dabatase B to fetch data from database A, based on a match between some
other data which are stored in both databases: e.g., typing a social
security number in B which matches a social security number in A will
cause the d data in various other defined fields in A (say, name &
address fields) to be imported automatically into B.

Panorama II is powerful:

1) It's big boasting point is that it is very fast, since it loads
databases into RAM. (This approach has its cons, of course, or everybody
would use it.)

2) It permits a wider variety of data-format checks than FM Pro does.
(You can for example ensure that social security numbers have 9 and only
nine characters in them, which FM Pro cannot do very easily.)

3) The Clairvoyance feature is a neat trick: after you type the first few
letters of an entry into a field, Panorama starts trying to guess--on the
basis of prior entries in the same field--what you are trying to type. If
you are a touch typist who watches the screen instead of her hands, this
may allow you to quit typing after a few characters and tab to the next
field.

4) Panorama's scripting options are more flexible than FM Pro's: you can
use variables and conditional statements, for example. However, I'm not
convinced that Panorama's overall scripting capabilities are vastly
superior to FM Pro's, and FM Pro's scripting (which doesn't actually
employ a language at all, but a menu-accessible library of commands) is
much, much easier to use.

Bottom line: Panorama II is fast and powerful, but not necessarily much
more powerful than FileMaker Pro, which is MUCH easier to learn and more
widely used. FileMaker Pro's layout options are more extensive, btw,
and unlike Panorama, FM Pro can be used under Windows (boo!) as well as
on a Mac. If Panorama's interface were less idiosyncratic, it could give
FM Pro a run for its money. But it's not....

Will Porter / University of Houston
wmporter@jetson.uh.edu

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 17:34:01 +0100 (MET)
From: afritzse@avalon.unizh.ch (Fritzsche Arthur)
Subject: QT Apple Commercials

Hello netters

I'm sorry that I have to ask this question again, there isn't any FAQ. :-)

I remember someone writing in this digest that he knows an ftp-site from
which we can always get the newest and best Apple
Commercial-QuickTime-Movies, including the 1984-Oldie.
Although I searched for this article that wasn't written more than 3 weeks
ago for more than one hour, I couldn't find it...

So: If you know more about this, please stand up! :-)


Thanks a lot,

Arthur

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 09:06:07 EST
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Quadra 840AV Memory

Speech recognition is one of the better sales tools for memory that I've
seen for a while.  The first thing the speech recognition says when it
starts up is "ready".  Apple should change that to "You need to buy
more memory!"  ;-)

Which leads me to my question.  I have a Quadra 840AV with 16 MB
of RAM.  What is the next step that I can take the Quadra to?  Can
I add a single 4 MB SIM to bring it to 20, or a single 8 MB sim
to take it to 24 MB?  Or is the next jump to 32 MB?

In the older Macs, memory had to be added in bank increments.  Is this
still true with the new Quadras?

Thanks,

Jeffrey Fritz
West Virginia University
jfritz@wvnvm.wvnet.edu

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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 07:31:47 +0000 BST
From: Richard Smith <richard@mole.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re-naming hard drives (summary)

Thanks to all those who responded to my query about re-naming hard drives on
my
SE/30 running system 7.1.

To summarise:

Many people suggested I turn off file sharing. It was off, but it is a good
starting point.

The problem really is that file sharing had been on, and a machine running
system 6.x.x had previously connected to my SE/30. This will lock the names of
any hard drive that has been shared, that's why I could re-name one drive but
not the other two.

The answer is a utility called 'UnlockFolder' by Kazu Yanagihara (available on
sumex, but I don't know where), which will resolve the problem.

Richard Smith
(richard@mole.demon.co.uk)

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 18:53:50 PST
From: Kee Nethery <kee@aol.com>
Subject: RS-422 serial vs LocalTalk (A)

>Could someone explain the difference between hooking a
>PostScript laser printer (HP 4ML) to my MAC's printer
>port via a direct DIN-8 to DIN-8 cable versus a
>Phonenet connection (2 phonenet connectors and telephone
>cable in between). HP technical support says that the DIN-8
>to DIN-8 connection is only reliable to about 20 feet and
>is in general slower than the localtalk/phonenet connection.
>Is this true?  Can the Mac port driver tell the difference?

One advantage of PhoneNets over a straight cable is the ground isolation
between the two machines. When they are plugged into the same power
circuit, that is not that big of an advantage since the grounds of both
machines are at the same voltage.

You can get into ringing problems with the signal on an unterminated line /
cable but you'd have to go greater than 20 feet, in my opinion, for that
problem to occur.

There is the problem of signal rejection from outside noise sources with a
a straight through cable BUT, at 20 feet, chances are that with PhoneNet
cabling you would use the telephone extention mod cable (flat) between the
connectors and that cable is not twisted so there would be no difference in
noise rejection between the two cabling methods.

I guess the main advantage for spending money on PhoneNets instead of some
massive long straight through cable is that nothing stays constant forever.
You will move the printer to a spot just beyond the reach of the cable, you
will buy a second computer, you will do something that renders your
straight through cable investment into a worthless bunch of wire. On that
day you'll buy network connectors.

If you buy the network connectors now, when that day comes, you'll go down
to radio shack and buy a long telephone extension cable or another
connector and you'll continue to use the connectors you bought when you
were considering a straight through cable. If you already have the straight
through cable, I see no reason why it shouldn't work just as well as
network connectors IF the grounds on the two machines are common.

Kee Nethery
kee@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 16:44:11 GMT
From: M.B.B.Bointon@lut.ac.uk (mbb Bointon) (mbb Bointon)
Subject: sAVe the disk bugs

FYI,

I have found that sAVe-the-disk breaks the effects part of the sound control
panel, and also the AV DSP Power Photoshop plug-in on my 840AV.
Removing sAVe-the-disk restores things to normal, but obviously does not deal
with the problems that s-t-d deals with.

Marcus

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 08:32:49 -0500 (EST)
From: 00bkpickeril@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Subject: Searching for AppleSearch Info...

Hi,

Anybody have anything to say about AppleSearch software?  What
can I do with it, etc.?

I have the feeling I could use a product like this, but I'm afraid
I missed any info about it.  I gather it's a client/server
database requiring an 040 server, but that's about all I know. :-(
Thanks in advance for any info. or suggestions.

--Brian Pickerill  <00bkpickeril@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 18:53:34 PST
From: Kee Nethery <kee@aol.com>
Subject: Security software for student mac lab (A)

At Ease 2.0 for workgroups will do everything you mentioned in your list
EXCEPT present the user with a finder interface. Other than that, it deos
it all. Quite a nice software package for computers owned by an
organization and not by a single individual.

Kee Nethery
kee@aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 14:58:06 EST
From: HBARNETT@URIACC.URI.EDU
Subject: SIMMs for MAC IIsi upgrade: how many is enough?

I have a Mac IIsi with 9MBs (RAM)and operate under System 7.1. I use
Superpaint
for surface design projects. The only delay  I have encountered is in
printing. Can I anticipate any big advantage if I upgrade to 17MBs?
What are the advantages?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 08:55:03 -0500
From: Ed Ver Hoef <verhoef@eng.gtefsd.com>
Subject: Snotty Responses in Info Mac

In info-mac VII #231, Mr. Becker took Al Bloom to task because of Al's dislike
of people
using nom de plumes when submitting items to info-mac. I'm not quite sure of
what Mr.
Becker was trying to say regarding Magic (Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada)
and
its relevance to the issue but that might be because I didn't have access to
the
original
submission (by Mr. Sienna?) or Al's offending reply. I also don't understand
the
relevance of the name of a hard disk to a user name on a message but perhaps
that is a
quirk of the mail program being used. Be that as it may and recognizing that
there might
have been extenuating circumstances regarding why Mr. Sienna's submission
appeared to
use a pseudonym, I nonetheless side with Al Bloom on this issue. I find the
use
of
pseudonyms irksome although I'm not quite sure why. I have reasons but they
might be
attempts at self justification so I won't bring them up other than to say that
if pseudonyms
can't serve as an actual address, they do interfere with communication. On the
occasions
when I respond to an info-mac item (much less frequently and with much less
significance than Al), I almost always reply directly to the submitter via
e-mail and only
copy info-mac if I feel the answer would be of general interest. If the
pseudonym is not
an actual address and the e-mail is undeliverable, I am less inclined to
pursue
the matter
further. With respect to Al's response, although he might have been a bit
heavy-handed, I
think the overall measure of his contributions to info-mac is very, very
positive and I'd
hate to see them diminished.

Ed Ver Hoef

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 09:43:46 +0000 (U)
From: George Tempel <tempel@MONMOUTH-ETDL1.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: software dispatch

		      software dispatch
I cannot help BUT reply to this sort of thing:

saul@hnrc.tufts.edu (Saul Tannenbaum) writes that he feels that
SoftwareDispatch is a trojan horse:

WHY MUST YOU be alarmist?! People are quick to slap some software
onto their macs and then scream when it doesn't work. I personally
object to calling the software a Trojan Horse, a term replete with
sinister implications and alterior motives. It is the senseless
tossing about of loaded words that creates the bulk of hysteria
and general bad-feelings in other social circles, so why must you
do it here.

I have had nothing but good luck with my unsolicited copy of
software dispatch, and I noted that an extension was indeed
installed into the system folder. Most commerical software
shoves things into there as well (even shareware products...
check out your preferences folder and/or the top level of your
system folder to check this out). I think you should perhaps take
a closer look at what _other_ things you have in and on your
mac that are probably the real culprit in your problems. Things
like carelessly written third party extensions, old software
control panels/extensions, off versions of disk formatters
(which sounds like your problem), etc. Apple cannot be held
accountable for the actions of all users who drop every
extension willy-nilly into their system folders, only to find
a conflict at every turn. That is why apple published the
Inside Mac series, so the "law" is clear for wanna-be
programmers.

Fortunately, I find that some of the _best_ written software
is high-quality shareware and some of the less popular
commerical packages (small companies). Quite often, actually
all to often, I find that large, nay, huge companies rush their
products off to the packaging and shipping departments long
before any serious debugging takes place, then charging for
upgrades/bug fixes/tech support, etc. Sort of the ma-and-pa
store approach vs the mega-store. Sure, the mega-store has
unbeatable prices, but what are you really getting? ma-and-pa
will walk you through the process and help fix it too.

You should also lighten up on the phone-support people (Tonya
Engst should help contribute to this...hi tonya) They aren't
the ones who created the problem, and they are there to try
and help. But as the Justice Dept. stated back in November, the
highest-risk jobs are sales-related, and customer support is
related to this. Just walk into any store in the united states
the friday after thanksgiving or the period between dec 23 and
january 5 and count how many nasty, fuming, irate customers
are relentlessly hammering at sales clerks. We have developed
an attitude of "I'm right, period. Dammit, i'm a customer, and
an american citizen, so do what i say." Pthpppppt! to that, how
'bout some (common) respect and civility, and we'll all get
along rather better, and find that lots of these customer/provider
issues are indeed _attitude_ driven.

My real objection is to your "hack and slay" attitude in this matter.
Flame if you will, if you must.

George Tempel
I am in no way in the employ of Apple Computer, TidBITS,
any software  vendor, marketing company, sales company, store,
or what-have-you; I both write software _and_ provide
support for a living.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 19:10:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Saul Tannenbaum <saul@hnrc.tufts.edu>
Subject: software dispatch

>                      software dispatch
>I cannot help BUT reply to this sort of thing:

>saul@hnrc.tufts.edu (Saul Tannenbaum) writes that he feels that
>SoftwareDispatch is a trojan horse:

>WHY MUST YOU be alarmist?! People are quick to slap some software
>onto their macs and then scream when it doesn't work. I personally
>object to calling the software a Trojan Horse, a term replete with
>sinister implications and alterior motives. It is the senseless
>tossing about of loaded words that creates the bulk of hysteria
>and general bad-feelings in other social circles, so why must you
>do it here.

	I do it here because it accurately describes my experience.
	This rendered about a gigabyte of disk space inaccessible.
	It installed undesired code on my system without documentation
	or warning.

	I reject your notion that this is "senseless ... hysteria."
	My post was accurate and, IMHO, reasonably well-tempered
	given the action and results. I made it clear that SW Dispatch
	was not, in and of itself, a problem. I made it clear that
	this was classic extension conflict. I also made it clear that,
	since nothing SW Dispatch did told me it was installing
	an extension, the fact that I noticed it and could fix it was
	was pure luck. I think that worth raising alarm about.

	I also did not post it to comp.sys.mac.announce, nor did
	I copy it to info-mac. The wide circulation it received was
	due to the respective moderators believing it was worth
	the attention. The original post was made last Friday.
	Based upon the response, it's clear to me now that my
	experience with Software Dispatch is not common. Were I
	to have written something today for Info-Mac, I'd choose
	somewhat different words. I did not have that opportunity.

>I have had nothing but good luck with my unsolicited copy of
>software dispatch, and I noted that an extension was indeed
>installed into the system folder. Most commerical software

	Good for you.

>shoves things into there as well (even shareware products...
>check out your preferences folder and/or the top level of your

	Installing a data file anywhere is far, far different
	from installing code the executes automatically at startup
	time. I expected a preference file - I got an INIT.

>system folder to check this out). I think you should perhaps take
>a closer look at what _other_ things you have in and on your
>mac that are probably the real culprit in your problems. Things
>like carelessly written third party extensions, old software
>control panels/extensions, off versions of disk formatters
>(which sounds like your problem), etc. Apple cannot be held

	Nonsense. That's not my problem at all. I admire your ability
	to diagnose from afar.

>accountable for the actions of all users who drop every
>extension willy-nilly into their system folders, only to find

	I do not drop extensions into my system willy-nilly.

>a conflict at every turn. That is why apple published the
>Inside Mac series, so the "law" is clear for wanna-be
>programmers.

	Apple also published Human Interface Guidelines that,
	among other things, suggests that you inform people
	what you're doing to their system. Perhaps they should
	follow their own advice.

>Fortunately, I find that some of the _best_ written software
>is high-quality shareware and some of the less popular
>commerical packages (small companies). Quite often, actually

	I agree.

	[...]

>You should also lighten up on the phone-support people (Tonya
>Engst should help contribute to this...hi tonya) They aren't
>the ones who created the problem, and they are there to try
>and help.

	[...]

	You've lost me. I didn't criticize phone support people
	at all, despite the fact that they lost me in their
	phone system once, and lost the information I gave them
	at least twice. I did criticize how SW Dispatch does
	phone support - a management problem, not a staff problem .


>My real objection is to your "hack and slay" attitude in this matter.
>Flame if you will, if you must.

	I do not have a "hack and slay" attitude.

	This has been an interesting experience - I've received a number
	of responses that have this sort of tone. I'm gratified to note
	that the most tempered responses have been private mail from
	engineers and others associated with the product involved who
	seem sincerely concerned about this problem.
--
Saul Tannenbaum ,Manager, Scientific Computing   Internet: SAUL@HNRC.TUFTS.EDU
USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University

[Ok folks.  Now that the posts have gone back and forth I would like to limit
this discussion to mac related issues.  Please, in any public responses,
keep away from personal flames.  They will be returned.  Personal flames by
e-mail.  Discussion of topic here in info-mac is fine.  So far these posts
have been ok, just want to make sure to nip this one in the "bud".  :)
-Gordon]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 18:46:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "William M. Porter" <WMPORTER@Jetson.UH.EDU>
Subject: sound volume changes on its own (Q)

>From time to time my Mac's sound volume suddenly gets turned up all the
way, without my asking for this to happen. I'm not absolutely sure, but
it seems to be connected with the use of Microphone Pro. What's really
strange is that the only way to fix it (i.e., to reduce the sound volume
to normal) is to open the Sound control panel, and then (the weird part)
to click on the "add..." button, then cancel. The sliding sound-level
indicator in the control panel does NOT move to reflect this change in
the volume, and playing with it does not cause the volume to be returned
to normal levels.

Has anybody else had this problem? Can anyone suggest a diagnosis and/or
a cure? Thanks in advance.

Will Porter / University of Houston
wmporter@jetson.uh.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 19:16:53 -0500 (EST)
From: SAKIMURA@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca (Natsu Sakimura)
Subject: tcl - tickl where?

Hello netters:

I am having trouble in locating tcl (tickle, NOT Think Class Lib.)
I thought that I saw a posting on info-mac digest that the new
version is out, but I can neither locate the article or tcl itself.

Please e-mail me because I my news server is not receiving all
the digest these day (funny.:-( )

Thank you very much in advance,

Natsu

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 11:22:17 -0500
From: garmenjm@sptyv.dnet.dupont.com
Subject: Toolbook


  Pete Tamas asks about Toolbook:

  "Toolbook" sounds suspiciously like the program of that name that runs in
    Windows. Sort of Hypercard for Windows (sort of). Unless, of course, they
    have ported it to the Mac.

  Regards


  Jaime M. Garmendia
  garmenjm@sptyv4.dnet.dupont.com



------------------------------

Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 18:54:00 PST
From: Kee Nethery <kee@aol.com>
Subject: Toolbook (A)

>Anyone familier with some software called Toolbook?
>I believe it is for creating interactive multimedia.

Yep, true. :-)

But before you go out and buy a copy, realize that if you want to use it on
your Mac you'll need some additional software :-{ since it is a Windows
product. My wife has done some translating from HyperCard into Toolbook and
it is a @#$%^& version of HyperCard with lots of HyperCard pulled out of
it. You can use it to build HyperCard like things for Windows but there are
lots of limitations. There is a stack that does a reasonable job of
attempting to convert HC stacks into Toolbook but it does not get you all
the way there and there are lots of things you should avoid in your HC
stack to get the conversion process to happen with a minimum of rework (use
no XFCNs or XCMDs, beware of animations that swap buttons icons, etc.)

Otherwise, it is the best thing out there for a Windows machine Hypercard
kinda thing.

Kee Nethery
kee@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 11:16:32 +0100
From: robk@macdoos.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rob Kouwenberg)
Subject: Using BOTH ethernet and AppleTalk [A]

L.S.,

As previously stated the Apple Internet router lets one use ALL appletalk /
ethertalk / ara lines at once on a machine. It however does not route
tcp/ip over appletalk to tcp/ip over ethernet ( as does the gatorbox ).

>*HINT*  If any one at Apple is reading this, I'd like the ability to use both
>networks to be in the next version of the system please.

And miss all the fun of selling an additional package ? Come on, you must
have heard something about economics ? Or what about microzap giving away
old & unreliable versions of windoze so that all these 'spoiled' users
would upgrade to the newest version with lotsa more features ( i.e. bugs )
? Give an addict a free joint and see what happens ... Same as feeding the
alligators by hand in the zoo !

Greetings, Rob kouwenberg

(*robk@stack.urc.tue.nl,Gr.Adolfstraat86,5616BX,Eindhoven,Holland*)

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 20:18:33 -0800 (PST)
From: John Thoo <jbthoo@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Watermarks (C)

On 4 Dec 93 ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst) wrote:
> In Regards to your letter <199312041247.AA14286@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> > I know that Word for Windoze allows you to add a watermark. How about
Word
> for
> > Mac?
>
> Working Watermarker from Working Software enables you to have watermarks
> in all applications, although it doesn't have an unlimited list of
> them - just the standard things I guess. I'll have to look more closely.

Just to add to this, FullWrite can print watermarks using what it calls
`background files.'  I'm no expert, but if I understand it correctly, these
background files are simply PostScript files that can be called from FW's
print dialog box.  I believe that the manual also gives instructions on
creating these PS files for use as watermarks.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 22:28:25 -0600
From: (Pete Chane) <pchaneuw@vms2.macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: Word 5.1 plug in

Anyone know where I can get the MS Word 5.x PIM that supports the PlainTalk
TTS (text to speech)?  I have seen it in use, but I have been unable to
find it locally.

Thanks for your help.

On Wisconsin!

PETER CHANE
PCHANEUW@macc.wisc.edu
PCHANE@applelink.apple.com
University of Wisconsin Badgers: "Goin' to the Rose Bowl!"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 07:01:40 IST
From: Uri Marcus <RPRSAM2@TECHNION.TECHNION.AC.IL>
Subject: Z-Modem UNIX upload trouble

I am having trouble using the "rz and rx" command on a UNIX host to
upload text or binary files from  my Mac to my UNIX account. Downloading,
using the "sz" command seems to work fine (although I don't understand
how to do batch downloads). When uploading, the file always "hangs" the UNIX
system, i.e. the file does not get transferred, and gets stuck in the
"receive"
 mode, which cancells eventually. I am running Microphone Pro 4.0 for the
Mac communication side, and connect with a supraFaxModem 14.4K V42bis.

Any suggestions, new versions of the z-modem implementation, etc. Our UNIX
sysop and guru, instead of being helpful, says "we don't support z-modem,
only Kermit". Dumb.

Uri Marcus, Bitnet addr: RPRSAM2@technion.technion.ac.il

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